The Container Spiral Storage – The making of …

The Container Spiral Storage finds it origin during one of the test runs. We ran out of containers at the trebuchet. In the pictures below, you can see the conveyor belt that transports an empty container to the funnel. The funnel catches the candy thrown by the trebuchet and drops it in the empty container.

This conveyor belt is able to store 8 empty containers, you can see below the conveyor belt with a row of six . To the left there is a bit more empty space, but this is where the table ends.

To the right of the conveyor belt (which is the bottom side on the picture), there is some more free space. One of the team members was asking for more container storage. While pointing to the empty space, he asked me to extend the conveyor belt with ‘some sort of spiral’. “Just build something simple”, he said. And I took the challenge.


I liked the idea of building a spiral. It needed to be something in the same style of the already existing conveyor belts, as can be seen on the previous photos. This was the first prototype of the container spiral.

As you can see in the video, the container runs easily downhill. Even so easy, that I needed to create a rail on the outer side of the spiral to prevent the containers from tumbling. The picture below has been made in Studio 2.0. Not only to create these amazing renderings, but also to count the number of bricks needed to build the spirals.

As you can see in the renders, the colors were matching with the already existing conveyor belts: the rollers black/red, the supporting structure in light bluish gray and the borders also red. The gears are all in light/dark bluish gray.

The spiral would consist of one and a half circles, making the tower +/- 30 cm in height. It would look something like the picture below.

As you can see in this picture, the motors haven’t been designed yet. I planned to insert them in the physical version once the spiral was build. An EV3 brick has 4 motor ports. Every half circle would be driven by one motor, and the fourth motor would drive the straight part that connects to the existing conveyor belt. That was the plan.

The next step: looking for Bricklink sites to buy the needed bricks.

But that was easier said than done ….


I will come back later on the difficulties I encountered while searching for the needed bricks. First, I want to give you an update about the second part of this build: the elevator.

Besides the spiral, I wanted to create a stack of containers. The stack would contain at least 10 containers, dropping them one by one (on request of the trebuchet conveyor when almost empty) onto the spiral rollers. My plan was to add this elevator to the start of the (extented) conveyor belt as shown in the following sketch:

It took me three prototypes to find a solution that would work, this is shown in the following video.

Because the containers are rotated 90 degrees, the total height would be around 60 – 75 centimeters. That would make the structure not very stable, especially when it needed to be transported. So I decided to look for a way, to revert the movement from a downwards dispenser, to an upwards dispenser.


Coming soon: the birth of the container spiral storage

It has been quite a while that I have posted an article about our large train layout. But that doesn’t mean that there was no activity. For example, we have made some major updates to the software application and all EV3’s are now running on EV3DEV.

With respect to new builds, I have been working on the new Lockers (you can see the result on Youtube) and on the Container Spiral Storage. In the pictures below you can see some pictures of the creation of this new build. I will soon write a longer article about the birth of the container spiral storage and the challenges I have faced during the build.

Stay tuned …

(Almost) Final version of the new container loader

In the video, you see the (almost) final version of the container loader. The only thing that is missing, is the power cable carrier.

What is new in this version (apart from finishing the build)? First of all, it has been added to the ‘real’ conveyor belt (you can see the enormous length ;-). This conveyor belt moves the containers from the warehouse to the wagons.

Furthermore, an ultrasonic sensor has been added at the top of the super structure. This ultrasonic sensor detects if a container has passed under it, so it ‘knows’ that after 1 second it can set its state to ‘container delivered’. Without this sensor, the only way to ‘ensure’ if the container has been loaded, was to use a predefined time frame. A predefined time frame has two major drawbacks: you need a very long time to make sure that the container has arrived. And you can not guarantee that the container will be delivered, no matter how long you define the time frame. You can see the ultrasonic sensor detection in close up around time frame 0:45.

Mindstorms EV3 without modification has 4 level grayscale display

Until now, we have programmed the EV3 bricks with the standard Lego programming software. Using messages to send commands from the PC and to retrieve status information from the EV3’s (this was not trivial, see this article

Programming the EV3’s with the standard programming language has as anything pros and cons. A major drawback, is that you can not do complex math. So we decided to convert all EV3 programs to EV3DEV and the C++ language.

I started this weekend with learning the EV3DEV environment and wrote my first, small test programming (pressing a touch sensor = motor rotates). Reading the manuals, learned me that you can do much more with the EV3 than with the standard programming environment.

For example, you can address the two LED’s on the brick separately. And it can also display four different grayscales on the display:

And this is all standard available!

Watch the short video on Youtube to see these features in action (click on the photo above).

Some useful links to get started:

Delta Crane will be replaced by Container Loading Station

For our layout in 2020, we will replace the Delta Crane, the module that was responsible for loading the containers from the conveyor belt to the wagons. You can see the Delta Crane in action in the following video (start at time frame 3:09):

One of the biggest disadvantages of the crane, is its speed. Or its slowness, that is a better description. In order to decrease the total running time (from color selection to candy delivery), loading of the wagons is now one of the bottlenecks.

So, I started to think about a new way of loading the train. How do I get the containers from the belt, to the wagons ….?

Another conveyor belt? No, to straight forward.

A push mechanism (kind of reverse of the delivery station)? No, been there, done that.

A robot arm? Yeah, that could work but is that special enough?

(quite some time passing by …)

And then I came with something completely new, as you can see in the following video:

At the left, you can see (a simplified part of) the conveyor belt, on the right you see the (simplified) train. The superstructure in the middle is able to move back and forth, so it can reach the four wagons without moving the train. In this first prototype, I can only move the superstructure by hand. But of course, this will be automated as well using sensors to detect the 4 wagon positions.

You can find renders of the final result at our Flickr page (click on the photo below).

Result of our work in 2019

A new video has been uploaded to our Youtube channel. In 2019, lots of new elements have been added to our layout. To name a few: the warehouse, able to store 60 containers with candies, with two independent stacker cranes, the four candy circles, and an updated delivery station. Also brand new is the PC software that connects everything. We have worked hard to get the software working stable and with success. You can see the result in the video. Enjoy the video!



Lego Monorail EV3 – Automated Switch

A monorail without a switch track is not a real monorail 😉

I have been working on an automatic switch for the Lego Mindstorms EV3 monorail. The idea is that there will be a monorail track on our layout with two reverse loops. The loops will each have a switch and the train will need to set the switch in the right position. One reverse loop will be at the delivery station, where the empty containers can be loaded onto the monorail. And the second reverse loop will be at the Candy warehouse, where the empty containers will be dropped. For this year, the (un)loading of the empty containers will be manually. It just saves time to walk between the two locations with the empty containers. Yes, I know this sounds lazy and yes, it is.

In the video below, you see version 1.0 of the automated switch. Currently, the switch is powered by a PF motor. The train was simply programmed to run and switch direction when it noticed a the green tile (on the left, not visible in the video), a red or a yelow tile. Meanwhile, I was operating the switch with a PF remote control.

The next update will be a finished reverse loop, including a second EV3 that controls the switch. The train-EV3 will communicate with the Switch-EV3 to set it in the right position.


Sioux.NET on Monotrack … ?

One of the “policies” within Sioux.NET on Track, is to change a build every three years. In other words, when a build has been part of a Lego World demo for three years, it should be replaced by a new one. For example, loading the train was first done by the container crane, now it is done by the delta crane. The same applies for the train: the first years, we controlled the train by an NXT, now it is controlled by an EV3. For the new layout, I am thinking of replacing the train by a monorail (and thus renaming the group to “Sioux.NET on Monotrack” ;-).

You can following the engineering process on Eurobricks.

Enjoy, Hans